True Crime Conversations

True Crime Conversations

True Crime Conversations explores the world's most notorious crimes by speaking to the people who know the most about them. Hosted by Gemma Bath.

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Former undercover officer Jason Somerville shares the intense psychological and physical demands of covert policing, from his transition from aspiring actor to specialist operative. He details the complexities of maintaining a fluid persona, managing the role of a controller, and navigating criminal environments ranging from property crime to drug syndicates. Beyond the operational mechanics, Somerville reflects on the profound personal toll of the work. He discusses the challenges of balancing undercover life with marriage, the hyper-vigilance required in dangerous situations, and how accumulated trauma eventually led to a mental breakdown and his journey through therapy.

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To do this job, you've got to be a great actor. You've got to be naturalistic. You've got to be naturalistic as hell.

00:01:41 · Jason explains the extreme level of acting skill required to maintain a convincing undercover identity.

the personality that makes a good undercover police officer is the same as a psychopath, that they're both very good at becoming other people but the police person has a very high rating when it comes to justice and to emotional IQ

00:12:06 · Jason describes findings from psychometric testing used to select candidates for covert operations.

I became the person that, the informant needed me to be in that situation or the target needed me to be in that situation.

00:21:56 · Jason explains how his undercover persona was fluid and adapted based on the needs of the operation.

And he sort of said, oh, did you see all the media outside? And I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, was that for you? And it was like, I killed someone and then killed someone else.

00:46:03 · The speaker recounts the moment a prisoner confessed to a double murder during an interrogation.

the undercover gave me an escape to be someone else and I lost who I was.

00:59:14 · The speaker explains how the nature of undercover work contributed to his loss of identity and psychological struggles.

Episodios

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Why Good Undercover Cops Think Like Psychopaths

Former undercover officer Jason Somerville shares the intense psychological and physical demands of covert policing, from his transition from aspiring actor to specialist operative. He details the complexities of maintaining a fluid persona, managing the role of a controller, and navigating criminal environments ranging from property crime to drug syndicates. Beyond the operational mechanics, Somerville reflects on the profound personal toll of the work. He discusses the challenges of balancing undercover life with marriage, the hyper-vigilance required in dangerous situations, and how accumulated trauma eventually led to a mental breakdown and his journey through therapy.

04 nov. 2026
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Anastasia Was Left Unable To Sit. Her Attacker Didn’t Spend A Single Night In A Cell.

Anastasia Trahan shares her harrowing journey through the legal system following two sexual assaults, beginning with an incident at age sixteen. She details the complexities of navigating police responses, the trauma of refusing a plea deal to maintain her truth, and the devastating impact of being left uninformed about a perpetrator's parole. The episode further explores the grueling second trial in 2022, highlighting the invasive cross-examination and the physical toll of the assault. Anastasia discusses systemic failures, such as the misuse of Community Corrections Orders (CCOs) and the lack of oversight for the DPP, while advocating for legislative change through the Echo campaign to protect survivors from further re-traumatization.

28 oct. 2026
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Kristi Locked Up Paedophiles For 10 Years. This Is What She Learnt.

Former police officer Christy McPhee shares her profound journey from a specialist child interviewer in rural Western Australia to a dedicated advocate for child safety and prevention. She reflects on the intense realities of policing, the psychological complexities of grooming, and the personal toll that witnessing child abuse cases took on her mental health, eventually leading to a diagnosis of PTSD. Moving from reactive policing to proactive education, McPhee provides practical strategies for parents to foster bodily autonomy and digital safety. The discussion covers identifying grooming tactics, teaching children to recognize physical warning signs, and implementing boundaries regarding social media use to create a safe environment where survivors feel empowered to come forward.

21 oct. 2026
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The Honeymoon Drowning That Turned A Groom Into A Murder Suspect [re-release]

This episode investigates the tragic death of Tina Watson during a honeymoon diving trip at Australia's Great Barrier Reef. Through an interview with author Lindsay Simpson, we explore the controlling relationship between Tina and Gabe Watson, detailing the suspicious circumstances surrounding their final dive at a shipwreck site. The discussion follows the aftermath of the incident, including the inconsistencies in Gabe's accounts that were challenged by experienced divers. We trace the legal journey from the 2007 inquest to Gabe's manslaughter plea deal and eventual extradition to Alabama, where the case ultimately ended in a dismissal.

19 oct. 2026
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Justine Sent 10,000 Letters To Convicted Female Killers In Prisons

Journalist Justine Vanderloon explores the case of Nicole Adamondo, a woman prosecuted for murder after killing her abusive partner in an act of self-defense. The episode details the extreme domestic violence and sexual exploitation Adamondo endured, alongside the prosecution's use of biased narratives to negate evidence of abuse during her trial. Vanderloon connects Adamondo's story to her large-scale research involving 10,000 incarcerated women, revealing widespread patterns of 'criminalized survival.' Through case studies like Tanisha Williams and Gemma Heffernan, she examines how systemic failures, generational trauma, and unhealed childhood abuse lead women into cycles of violence and severe legal consequences.

14 oct. 2026